Willem Wijnia on LinkedIn: Most organisations work en think hierarchical and use agile as “more work… (2024)

Willem Wijnia

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Most organisations work en think hierarchical and use agile as “more work in less time” that why there is less recognition for aigile coaching. To let agile flourish organisations should act as a network of agile team and management is done agile too, agile is becoming a way of live more than a method. Agile is the way to adopt to changes and management adopt to change in and around the organisation and development adopts to changes to product requirements. So my advice is to shift from hierarchical to network and adodopt as agile as you can😃

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